vulgarweed: (whoohoo-by-casira)
vulgarweed ([personal profile] vulgarweed) wrote2010-04-22 09:39 pm

SPN WTF



Was that a truly epically dense conglomeration of cultural-appropriation FAIL or what?

I can just see how that might have gone down at the scriptwriter's meeting: "It'll be edgy! It's kind of like American Gods--only really stupid!"




ETA: Comments are spoileriffic now.

[identity profile] sirius-luva.livejournal.com 2010-04-23 03:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Singapore is way behind and the last episode was... the one after the Anrichrist's appearance. Can't remember. xD

But what's this I hear about Kali and Ganesh making an appearance?

(I am a practising Hindu)

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2010-04-23 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, they do. And I found the way the whole episode was written extremely ignorant and disrespectful. :(

[identity profile] sirius-luva.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Oh dear. D: Dare I ask what happened? Which season/episode is this? We're still at Season 5, if I recall correctly.

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
Oh honey. It's 5x19. Here's the summary at the Supernatural wiki: http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=5.19_Hammer_Of_The_Gods (Spoilers, obviously.) I'm afraid you're going to loathe it for all KINDS of reasons.

[identity profile] sirius-luva.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
*just... STARES*

Oh dear Someone. That was painful for all kinds of reasons.

I was actually mostly fine with the Kali mentions up until Gabriel said "chick was all hands". -_-

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think what they did to poor Ganesh was far, far worse. :(

[identity profile] sirius-luva.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
Oh dear. All that page said was that He appeared in elephant form...

And I've always had a huge respect for all gods, so really... stepping on Odin's head? D:

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Uh...yeah, it's a lot worse. Lucifer kills him. After he's been painted as a mean-spirited mook who EATS PEOPLE (as all the gods in this episode do, for no good reason whatsoever.)

Kali tries to kill Lucifer and fails, which totally rubbed me the wrong way. She should have had no problem with that!

[identity profile] sirius-luva.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
... ... ... ... ...

The gods. Eat people. O_O

No indeed, She should not have had any problem. Even in a Judeo-Christian verse. And Odin! D:

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
And Odin has two good eyes. They didn't even TRY.

The basic concept? Pretty totally ripped off from 'American Gods', to start with. Which, OK, it's a big concept, plenty of ways to tell it, fine...but they didn't do any of the in-depth research Gaiman did and they didn't show any of his intelligence and respect. You cannot just pull gods at random from religions THAT BILLIONS OF PEOPLE ARE PRACTICING and insult them like that. The people-eating business was just to make them gratuitous bad guys. There wasn't even any acknowledgment that Mercury would have different motives than Odin who would have different motives than Baron Samedi, etcetera. (Baron Samedi, from the Voudoun pantheon, at least is a sort-of-god of death. But he's a guardian and guide of the dead - he doesn't KILL people. Well, unless one really has it coming.)

And you certainly cannot get away with implying that your Christian-pantheon villain, who's not even a god, just a fallen archangel, is more powerful than all of them put together. If your plot demands that, then it's a STUPID, OFFENSIVE PLOT and you should rewrite it!

[identity profile] sirius-luva.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
... oh my.

Ouch. They really didn't even TRY this time, did they? ><

I agree!

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Check out [livejournal.com profile] 22by7's post here. Zie is also Hindu and appalled (and you both also like Aziraphale/Crowley, Asian cinema, and Hellblazer as well as SPN, you should chat anyway. Consider me a friendslist matchmaker here)

[identity profile] sirius-luva.livejournal.com 2010-04-24 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
:D Thank you! (xD Awesome.)