SPN WTF

Apr. 22nd, 2010 09:39 pm
vulgarweed: (whoohoo-by-casira)
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Was that a truly epically dense conglomeration of cultural-appropriation FAIL or what?

I can just see how that might have gone down at the scriptwriter's meeting: "It'll be edgy! It's kind of like American Gods--only really stupid!"




ETA: Comments are spoileriffic now.

Date: 2010-04-24 04:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com
I, uh, cannot persuade you in good conscience to watch the rest of the series, particularly if this is an indication of the direction it's going.

I caught up late and own all the first four seasons on DVD now and can tell you this: The frustrating thing about SPN is that it has ALWAYS been a show full of great characters and great premises, desperately in search of plots that are worthy of them--and only about half the time finding them.



Date: 2010-04-24 04:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quantum-witch.livejournal.com
All right, then point me toward good fics. I know enough of the characters to be intrigued, and you're right that the premise is good. I'll be happy to just read fics that stay IC, regardless of the storyline.

Date: 2010-04-24 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com
Well, there's various amounts of fail, but this is a particularly dramatic stinkbomb.

I'll scare up some good recs lists for you. I gotta warn you, though, the fandom is really, really incesty and I know you don't care for that. The most popular pairing are the two main characters, who are brothers. (Consenting-adult sibling incest doesn't really bother me - I blame V.C. Andrews - but I know mileage varies a LOT.)

Date: 2010-04-24 09:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quantum-witch.livejournal.com
Yeah, I know about the cest tendencies and, yeah, don't have a great fondness for it (though I agree with the consenting adults is okay thing in general). If there are proper warnings, I just shrug and move on. I'm not necessarily concerned with pairing fics, just good fics, written well.

I do think it's awfully sad to search out fanon simply because of the tragically bad writing of canon. :(

Date: 2010-04-26 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com
I'd say start here: http://community.livejournal.com/crack_van/tag/supernatural


And also: Episode 5.18, the one right before this latest trainwreck? SO GOOD!

Date: 2010-04-27 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quantum-witch.livejournal.com
Thanks, I'll check them out. :) Pity the one before was good, I'll have to see if I can track it down.

I wonder... do people without siblings have a better tolerance for incest fics more than those with siblings? You don't have any, I do - it certainly colours MY feelings on the subject.

Date: 2010-04-27 04:30 pm (UTC)
fyrdrakken: (Castiel)
From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken
Given the show's structure, fans who are shipperishly inclined have been forced to decide whether incest or RPS is the lesser of evils. But since the addition of Castiel, there's been the Dean/Castiel option gaining strength. Unfortunately I don't have any recs to offer, but they're out there.

Date: 2010-04-27 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quantum-witch.livejournal.com
I'm not wholly against the idea, if it's well-written I could be induced to read virtually anything.

I don't know what "RPS" stands for. I feel ignorant. :(

Date: 2010-04-27 05:07 pm (UTC)
fyrdrakken: (Jack O'Neill)
From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken
Real Person Slash. (Similarly, RPF = Real Person Fic.) Sometimes it's a blatant AU and the actors you recognize are basically serving as a mental casting guide, but some fans find it incredibly squicky and intrusive. (And sometimes you're in bandom, where the stage personas are arguably semi-fictional characters in and of themselves anyway.)

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