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vulgarweed ([personal profile] vulgarweed) wrote2004-07-30 12:30 am

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Wow. I think he can do it, folks. I really, really, am starting to think he can really do it!


(for someone who hates to get her hopes up as much as I do, that's a big deal, folks.)

So I just joined [livejournal.com profile] johnxjohn. Plenty of room in that Democrat Bad Place, folks! But there is not a slash America and a het America, there is the United States of America!


In other news, happy golden birthday to The Fellowship of the Ring, published July 29, 1954......



....for those out there still wondering why LOTR fen got so damn snippy about friggin' SPOILER WARNINGS.

[identity profile] lillithj.livejournal.com 2004-07-30 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
Wow. I think he can do it, folks. I really, really, am starting to think he can really do it!

I'm in that boat also! I think we have a chance.

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2004-07-31 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It feels good, but I am so, so scared. Losing is just unthinkable, considering the stakes.

[identity profile] erunyauve-e.livejournal.com 2004-07-31 01:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It feels good, but I am so, so scared. Losing is just unthinkable, considering the stakes.

I'm cynical enough to believe that Bush's people have something up their sleeves, and I've lost a lot of faith in the democratic process.

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2004-07-31 01:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Me too. I'm also very scared to see what's going to happen that will screw up the election, and how. Will people die, or will it be white-collar crime?

I just hope to hell the Dems have learned from Al Gore's mistakes. Don't fucking roll over and take it! If Fahrenheit 9/11 changes anyone's mind, it should be theirs. (Watching Gore shoot down the Black Caucus members one after the other.........there are no words.)

[identity profile] erunyauve-e.livejournal.com 2004-08-01 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Watching Gore shoot down the Black Caucus members one after the other.........there are no words.)

I don't know that he had much choice - I don't know what sort of conflict of interest issues might have arisen, but I'm certain the Republicans would have beaten them to death. I'm a little shaky on my Congressional rules of procedure, but I would imagine that if Gore had recused himself, that would have put Senate Majority Leader Lott in charge.

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2004-08-01 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
No, he didn't have much choice at all. I'm more angry at the Senate.

Was Lott the Senate Majority leader at that time? If so, ew, but Gore still should have put up more of a fight for the awful precedent it set and the lingering bad feelings it left. I'm frankly still boggled by the "we can't count the votes and find out the truth, it would take too long" argument.

[identity profile] erunyauve-e.livejournal.com 2004-08-01 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Was Lott the Senate Majority leader at that time? If so, ew, but Gore still should have put up more of a fight for the awful precedent it set and the lingering bad feelings it left.

Yes, it was Lott - IIRC, the Democrats won control of the Senate in 2000, but of course, this would have been the lame duck Senate.

And I know many have given Nixon and the ballot-stuffing in Chicago in 1960 as an excuse for Florida, but I can't see using a past wrong to make a right forty years later.

[identity profile] murasaki99.livejournal.com 2004-07-30 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
I really hope he does! We need a change so badly. I'm starting to feel hopeful and look forward to November.

LOTR - 50 years young. Wow. I do remember reading FOTR and TTT and then discovering the ending wasn't printed in the US yet. Augh. Had to wait a year I think, but mom was a fan too and kept an eye out for the books. This was back when there was a debacle with the Ace pirated printing. That dates me. ^_^

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2004-07-31 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Eee! I'm trying to imagine what that would be like (like waiting for the next Harry Potter book, I guess, a little bit, but at least those don't end on such nasty cliffhangers).

I don't go back that far, but I remember reading my dad's old copies in the basement - the Ballantine ones, with Tolkien's own watercolors on the cover and that little screed about Ace. I loved the fact that Bored of the Rings parodied that as well.