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vulgarweed ([personal profile] vulgarweed) wrote2006-05-25 06:43 pm
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Oh, and...

I've been thinking that if I could ask Gneil and/or PTerry one Good Omens-related question, it would actually have nothing to do with the theology of the changed world or a second apocalypse or the mysteries of the Horsepersons or anything related to whether or not Aziraphale and Crowley are So Doing It (tm). Those are all things for fandom to play with, which it does quite nicely.

It would be a fairly straightforward question.

Who was Adam's mother?



If there's any fic or meta on this subject anywhere, please point me!

[identity profile] defaultlyric.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I never once thought of that. But if you DO happen to find anything, make sure to post linkage because now I'm curious too.

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
awwww, icon love!

It just started driving me crazy all of a sudden. The obvious assumption is that she must have been human, but then why would Hastur and Ligur have had to bring him, presumably from Hell? Wouldn't he have been on earth already?

[identity profile] tyellas.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Lilith????

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Could be. As good a guess as any. Except that I'd think someone in there had to be human...and granted, she used to be at least...

[identity profile] tehta.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's safe to assume that she would not have been the mothering kind.

I mean, if God picked a meek virgin to carry His son, whom would Satan have picked? (I'm not hinting at prostitution here: that's obviously too neutral.)

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Some random (but attractive) damned soul hoping for a promotion by putting out for the Big Guy? Would Lucifer have gone for a "trophy wife" or just good genes?

[identity profile] tehta.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Couldn't he have both? Damned souls are scarce.

But I was thinking of a living woman--one willing to make a pact with the devil in return for RL advantages.

How about Madonna? The name'd be ironic, then. Although it's way too close to RPF for my liking.

[identity profile] quantum-witch.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
That thought has crossed my mind numerous times... and then slipped away as though someone didn't want me to think about it too hard ;) Sound familiar? I don't think we're meant to know. Generally, my concept has been "all of womankind", like picking a gene here, a gene there, at random.

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Bwah! She must have done something dramatic to be such a big star with that annoying squeaky voice of hers. And that might explain all her mystical BS now. :)

That's a damn good theory.

(I mean, it's not like LOTR where nobody has living a mother and you just accept it as a literary convention.)

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Heh. Yeah, the thoughts are strangely elusive...:)

Only the good genes, of course.

[identity profile] tehta.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
And all her pseudo-blasphemy in the earlier days. E.g., 'Like a Prayer':

In the midnight hour I can feel your power...

I hear your voice, it's like an angel sighing
I have no choice, I hear your voice


And it would, of course, make her just 'Like a Virgin' in a special way.


The more I think about this, the better it fits.
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[identity profile] isiscolo.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
YOU WIN.

[identity profile] murasaki99.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
LOL! If Satan was doing the gene-picking, what does he know about 'good genes'??? Hee-hee! How closely has he been paying attention all these eons. Or did he delegate the job (that'd be even worse!). Can't you see Hastur and Ligur turning in a snippet from Madonna, and a snippet from I dunno Hillary, and Crowley - strapped for time - grabbing some random genes from a waitress in a pub... or from Maggie Thatcher...

Hee-hee-hee! :D

[identity profile] quantum-witch.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Of course, and the other half being of angelic stock, no wonder he's gorgeous.

Then again, the original Adam (and Eve) were made of... what? God made them out of Himself, just as he did the angels. Perhaps that's what Satan did with his Adam?

[identity profile] quantum-witch.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
Aziraphale and Crowley are So Doing It (tm).

Duh. And Neil and Terry know it too, but they're In Denial(tm).

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
It even explains why she's being such an insufferable public broody hen now...

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Or some of those irritating Satanic nuns. XD

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
But Adam and Eve were never babies. Adam was. I presume that someone actually gave birth to him, just like someone actually gave birth to Christ...otherwise where would that all-important human part of him come from?

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
And it's just for the best to let them stay there. :P

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
And the more she elaborates the truer it gets!

[identity profile] tehta.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

It's a good revenge for all the pop she infected my friends with when I was a tween.

[identity profile] quantum-witch.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, good point. Well, I'm stumped then. If you come up with something good, write a fic :p

[identity profile] magicicada.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting . . . I’ve never thought about this before. In the movie The Omen the antichrist’s mother was a jackal, which was very weird and creepy, but I definitely think Adam’s mother is human. I really like the Madonna theory— it makes sense in a cracked out sort of way.

[identity profile] vulgarweed.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
God, I'd forgotten about that jackal thing - haven't seen that movie in so long! Yeah, weird. I don't see anything like that happening with Adam either.
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[identity profile] maggiebloome.livejournal.com 2006-05-26 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
Test tube baby! The Evils Of Modern Science style.

I met a guy on a forum that's going to be Gneil's tourgideyperson during an Israel tour soonish. He said if I had any questions they could get asked vicariously through him. I'll mention that.

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