HAHA wow

Apr. 6th, 2017 05:02 pm
vulgarweed: (rain_by_aurora_starwing)
[personal profile] vulgarweed
Almost my ENTIRE friendslist first page is community mods posting about bailing this sinking ship for Dreamwidth, due to terrifying new LJ User Agreement.

Q: Is Good Omens Exchange one of them?
A. Yes.

In a nutshell here are some good reasons:

1. This move is mostly aimed at silencing and/or spying on Russian activists, not fandom. This doesn't mean fandom is safe here, nor it is something people outside of Russia should be supporting, directly or indirectly.
2. Essentially, all free speech and copyright law application on LJ effectively becomes that of Russia, not the country the user is in. Yikes.

Date: 2017-04-07 02:52 am (UTC)
ancientreader: black and white pet rat (Default)
From: [personal profile] ancientreader
My flist is similar. I imported my journal (ancientreader over there btw) and am looking through my old LJ bookmarks to see if there's any fic not on AO3 that I want to c/p into a Word doc before I delete.

Date: 2017-04-07 06:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electricwitch.livejournal.com
I feel extremely doubtful (or rather am almost sure that it's impossible) that you can set aside primary state and treaty law which has even more binding power than state law like privacy law and free speech law with a contract, or at least not here.

But okay, if they want to scare people they've done it.

Date: 2017-04-07 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anna-wing.livejournal.com
Essentially, all free speech and copyright law application on LJ effectively becomes that of [ ], not the country the user is in.

LJ was indulging in "censorship" when it was owned by Americans too. I recall a huge fuss about a decade ago, about pornography, I think. The present situation is not substantively different from the previous one, for those of us not living in/nationals of either the US or Russia.

Date: 2017-04-07 12:15 pm (UTC)
ancientreader: black and white pet rat (Default)
From: [personal profile] ancientreader
You are correct in your implication that the First Amendment doesn't apply to privately owned "space," including virtual space. But I don't think the old TOS gave LJ's owners the right to edit (vs delete) and repurpose copy from blogs, as the new TOS appears to do, although who knows since most of us can't actually read the original but only the incompetent and also "non-binding" translation. Which is a problem in itself.

This is to say nothing of the vile Russian laws against "homosexual propaganda," which our blogs and comms are now also subject to. Obviously Russian criminal penalties can't reach people outside Russia, but post something pro-gay, or a slash fic, and you're subject to deletion. So, yes, the present situation is substantively different.
Edited Date: 2017-04-07 12:15 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-08 12:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ithilwen.livejournal.com
I'm happy now that I moved my journal to Dreamwidth several years ago and have just been cross posting to LJ.

Date: 2017-04-10 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_silverfox/
Can we get a link to the exchange community on DW?

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