vulgarweed: (nosmokinghell_by_yummycoffee)
[personal profile] vulgarweed
It's been exactly two years since my last cigarette!

Still vaping, now down to 3 mg/ml nicotine, a very low dose. Hope to be down to 0 by this time next year.

Date: 2017-08-24 11:25 pm (UTC)
donut_donut: (redbuttonhole)
From: [personal profile] donut_donut
I hope this isn't an odd question, but it's been bugging me for months now, and you seem particularly suited to address it.

As a vaper and a Sherlockian, can you explain to me what the hell Sherlock is talking about in this scene?

SHERLOCK: And you’re trying to give up smoking, unsuccessfully, and you once had a Japanese girlfriend that meant a lot to you but now you feel indifferent about.
KINGSLEY: How the hell ...? Ah. E-cigarettes.
SHERLOCK: Not just that – ten individual e-cigarettes. Now, if you just wanted to smoke indoors, you would have invested in one of those irritating electronic pipe things, but you’re convinced you can give up, so you don’t want to buy a pipe because that means you’re not serious about quitting, so instead you buy individual cigarettes, always sure that each will be your last.

What's the difference between an e-cigarette and an electronic pipe? And if someone generally buys individual e-cigarettes, why would they have ten at one time? Especially if they are intending to quit? Plus, I thought e-cigarettes could be used indefinitely with refills, so why would anyone need more than one?

I think I don't know enough about e-cigarettes to follow this deduction, and I was hoping you could shed some light.

Date: 2017-08-25 01:34 am (UTC)
donut_donut: (7%)
From: [personal profile] donut_donut
Thank you! You did help clarify some stuff. And you also confirmed my suspicion that Gatiss doesn't really get vaping. (Gatiss is, I believe, a never-smoker.)

I agree that it's silly to regard someone who vapes as having "failed to give up smoking," and so it makes no sense that buying an electronic pipe is like admitting defeat.

Also, if you were sure that each e-cig (or cig, or ANYTHING) was your last, you most certainly WOULDN'T buy ten at a time. So that never made any sense.

In fact, from your description, ten e-cigarettes would actually suggest that Kingsley *did* just want to be able to smoke indoors. In that case, he would still have regular cigarettes for most of the time, but keep the cheapies around for when he's on a train or at his in-laws' or something. And then it would make perfect sense why he didn't want to invest in the fancy "electric pipe" (which I'll assume is equivalent to a refillable vape machine) -- because he has no intention of quitting, and just keeps e-cigs on hand for convenience/politeness.

so yeah, I think Sherlock's deduction here is entirely wrong and backwards. The clue means the *opposite* of what he says, which Sherlock, as a sometimes smoker, would surely know.

I'm calling this a creator-error. Thanks for the consult!

Date: 2017-08-25 01:41 pm (UTC)
donut_donut: (Default)
From: [personal profile] donut_donut
It's hard for me to see why someone who uses patches would be snobbish about vaping, since they're both supplying nicotine, but I'll take your word for it, lol. People are strange.

no one calls it an "electronic pipe." UNLESSSSS....

HA. I did wonder if "electronic pipe" might be a brit thing, but it does seem odd, from a marketing standpoint. People who smoke cigarettes don't generally want to be associated with pipes.

all in all, the passage gives off a whiff of "old man writing about something he's only seen on TV". ;)

Date: 2017-08-25 10:36 pm (UTC)
eldriwolf: (Default)
From: [personal profile] eldriwolf
First off, Congratulations!


Second ,well, it is nice -
-*Except* why the plastic fake wood bit?
(I see not all of them are)
Part of the joy of pipes (for me ) is the beauty of the wood--each chunk of burl unique--the lifetime achievement of That plant, added to the skill of the human who sculpted the pipe from the wood.
Art you can carry-and-use

Date: 2017-08-24 11:52 pm (UTC)
ancientreader: black and white pet rat (Default)
From: [personal profile] ancientreader
This is straight-up wonderful news. I remember when you first mentioned quitting, on Tumblr -- I had my fingers crossed for you hard, because having been through it myself I know exactly how excruciating the farewell to cigarettes can be. Your lungs must be so happy!

Date: 2017-08-25 12:16 am (UTC)
ancientreader: black and white pet rat (Default)
From: [personal profile] ancientreader
So do I (TWENTY-FIVE YEARS after quitting). Not as much lately, but I still do occasionally dream that I've started again, and wake in the morning full of horror and dismay. The actual dream-smoking, of course, is blissful, which the real thing stopped being long before I quit.

Date: 2017-08-25 11:46 am (UTC)
espresso_addict: Winged dragon in slate blue & red brown hues (dragon)
From: [personal profile] espresso_addict
Kudos!

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